Hi,
I bought a nature pedic eos classic around 6 weeks ago, long enough for it to be broken in according to what I’ve been told. I currently have firm coil springs under soft latex. I find this is great for alignment however it puts a lot of pressure on my shoulder.
I have the option of going with plush springs, and I can also firm up the comfort layer. I tried plush springs with soft and medium latex in the store and my body “hammocked” pretty badly.
I can also upgrade to the pillow top version to get a second layer of latex, and naturepedic does make microcoils for comfort layers.
Short of going with a zoned mattress, is there any standard practice in designing a mattress for heavy sidesleepers that can support the hips without putting too much pressure on the shoulders?
Thanks!
@TheCleanBedroom
Hi! I consulted with our sales staff:
"the pillowtop with the extra layer of latex would probably help.
Depending on how heavy they are they could do either a Firm Coil/firm Latex/Soft Top or Firm Coil/Med latex/Soft latex."
Perhaps you can take this to where you bought it. You may want to try different pillows as well.
Good luck!
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Have you considered adding a topper? It sounds like you’re very close to having a mattress / mattress setup that works for you, so adding a topper might be easier than starting all over on your mattress search, buying a new one, and crossing your fingers and hoping it works. Just something to consider! If you’re open to it, I’ve included some tips on selecting a topper just below:
Please keep the following in mind when choosing a thickness for your topper: A 2” topper will make a noticeable difference but, depending on how much you want to change the feel of your mattress, may still leave something to be desired. The 3” topper will change the feel of your mattress the most, and if that’s the change that you’re looking for then this would be the best bet. The best way to summarize it would be to say that a 2” topper will make the mattress feel moderately softer and the 3” topper will make the mattress feel much softer.
Both the thickness and the density makes a difference when choosing a topper. Ultimately, how you make your decision will depend on the following: how firm your mattress is now; how much softer you want your mattress to be; your height, body weight, and sleeping preference (For example, if you weigh more than about 200 lbs I would recommend a medium topper; if you weighed more than 200 lbs and bought a soft topper, you would likely bottom out and sink right through the topper to the firm mattress that you’re trying to move away from). We normally recommend soft for folks under 200 pounds, medium for folks between 200 and 250 pounds, and firm for folks over 250 pounds. Even though we call it a “firm” topper, it will actually feel quite soft to anyone over 250 pounds, just FYI.
Aside from that, Talalay is bouncier and springier and is generally better at contour and pressure relief on your hips and shoulders. Dunlop is denser and firmer and is generally better at support and maintaining proper spinal alignment so Talalay is much more common for toppers. Talalay can also be helpful in avoiding back pain because it provides more of what we call secondary support. Secondary support fills in the gaps between your body and the mattress. For side sleepers, this is normally the area between a person’s ribs and waist. For back sleepers, this is normally the area between the small of your back and the mattress. If these parts or your body aren’t being held up by the mattress, your muscles will work all night to hold those parts of your body up, which can lead to back pain. So Talalay is much more common for toppers because of the extra pressure relief and secondary support it offers.
Thanks!
So in a way it’s similar to getting a topper. With the naturepedic eos being fully modular, the pillowtop version is essentially the same as what I currently have but it has another pocket on top to fit an additional 3" layer of latex. What I have has 8" of coils and 3" of latex, this will allow me to add an additional 3" of latex.
Oh I see, thanks for clarifying! Well if you have the option for it, I would try the new layer outside of the cover first, and if that’s too soft, then try it inside the cover. Having a top layer that is not encased with the rest of the mattress will allow that top layer enough spatial freedom to move upwards when you lay on it, making for a more plush and enveloping feel compared to having it in the same cover as the rest of the mattress.
Man, thanks for the heads up. I’m a side sleeper. That’s been having troubles with my shoulder and hip as well sitting at 215 pounds. I just happen to be going to look at that bed tomorrow for the Fourth of July sale. Hope you land with the right configuration.
No problem. I’d highly recommend reading the mates buying guide here if you haven’t already.
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So, I’m not an industry pro, but I am a side-sleeping Naturepedic EOS Pillowtop owner that is extremely happy with my bed. I’m ~190lbs. I tried a bunch of beds in-store, including the EOS Classic, and the Pillowtop was the one I chose. No matter which config I tried with the Classic, I couldn’t dial in the exact type of comfort I needed — it was either too firm for my shoulder or too soft for my hips. I didn’t have that issue with the EOS Pillowtop, so I bought it. I’m going on 8 months with it and every night I fall asleep comfortable, often waking up in exactly the same position I fell asleep in. No pain when I get out of bed.
I did try a couple of different configurations in the beginning, taking advantage of the free layer swap option. I am very happy with my firm coils, medium middle layer, and soft top layer. It’s the perfect balance of hip support and shoulder give. My spine is aligned. My skeleton is happy.
Last month I added a wool topper — the bed really didn’t need it, but I wanted just a little more of a snuggly surface feel — and the wool topper did achieve that without compromising support. I was happy without it, but I love having it!
Anyway, based on your post, I really do think the EOS Pillowtop is your answer. I hope this helps. If you decide to go that route, I’d be interested in hearing what you think!
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Great to hear your experience is going well. I added my 3" wool topper for almost the same reason, did not really need it, but wanted to experience it first hand, and give a very firm mattress a bit of contouring, without sacrificing firmness. Now I am toying .with the idea of adding a two inch talalay layer under the wool. I would like to see if it reduces the compression of the wool.
The other feature that I like is my mattress is still unremarkable. It is still flat and firm. I do rotate it every 3 months and rotate and/or flip the wool topper every sheet change.
Wonderful to hear your Naturepedic is working well for you!
Maverick
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