Im 6f2 200lbs and a side sleeper who likes a med-plush feel. Im planning a split order from SleepEZ and Arizona premium, 3" firm dunlop (37-40ILD), 3" med dunlop (30-32ILD), 2" talaly (20-24 ILD), 2"Talalay (16-19 ILD).
While Im a bit afraid Im going too soft, ive also read way to many reviews of people who went too firm on the support layer and nothing they do with transition and comfort layer seems to work because of it. A couple parts I could see swapping out are going a little more firm on the transition layer, example…
3" firm dunlop (37-40ILD), 3" med dunlop (30-32ILD), 2" talaly ((25-29ILD)), 2"Talalay (16-19 ILD).
Then for the core im not 100% set on leaving it as so and wonder if I should just do all 6in in med dunlop(30-32) or if maybe that is going a little too soft.
Also wondering, is the GOLS certification worth paying extra for from SleepEZ or is the quality of the cheaper latex good enough?
GOLS I believe is to make sure there’s no unknown dangerous chemicals in the latex so I would say it’s worth it…
Your weight would require a medium firm-firm mattress if I am not wrong , core / support layer should be 6-8 inch, for a firmer mattress consider 7 or 8 inch of support, not too sure about latex mattress support layer but should be something similar?
Experts do correct me if I am wrong, just looking to help and learn more
Thank you for reaching out! Based on the information you’ve provided, I would typically recommend a configuration of Medium (30-32ILD) Talalay over Medium (30-32ILD) Dunlop over Firm (38-40ILD) for your mattress (M/M/F). We suggest using Talalay as the top layer because it offers slightly more pressure relief and contour compared to Dunlop due to its softer nature. Dunlop, being heavier and denser, is well-suited for providing support below.
This configuration has proven to be ideal for individuals weighing between approximately 185lbs to 215lbs who primarily sleep on their side or back. The choice between a 2" and 3" thickness for your contour layer typically depends on whether you prefer an overall plush feel for your mattress surface or a more supportive one. The 3" thickness provides a plush feel, while the 2" thickness, although still offering contour and pressure relief, results in a less plush surface.
There is no discernible difference between Natural and GOLS certified Dunlop concerning feel, longevity, consistency, breathability, or off-gassing of chemicals. Non-organic natural latex is produced from raw latex using standard farming practices, whereas organic latex is farmed without the use of pesticides and under the supervision of monitoring bodies.
GOLS is the organization typically responsible for monitoring and certifying organic latex producers. In addition to farming practices, GOLS oversees materials sourcing, Fair Trade practices, and wastewater treatment, ensuring full supervision of the social and environmental impact of latex production.
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I’m also a 6’2" side sleeper but I’m 185 pounds. I think I prefer to sleep on my mattress not in it, and I’m having lower back issues with my diy set up. I have 3inch layers of Dunlop 9 inches total, where my soft has ild 20, medium 34, firm 46. I note the old is higher than sleeper. It’s all on the right foundation etc.
Soft/med/firm: I didn’t have enough support
Soft/firm/firm: still sagging in middle.
End up getting rid of soft l
Med/firm/firm pressure on shoulders
Med/med/firm still sagging in middle
So I got a v-zone layer from flobeds, and I found a set up of soft talalay under my shoulder and extra firm talalay in lumbar and firm talalay at hip to be best for pressure relief, and firm/firm Dunlop underneath to have better support, But it’s still not ideal, I’m still getting low back pain and feeling the firm talalay in my lumbar area is a little annoying.
I think I need to have the vzone layer a little deeper in mattress but I still want a 9 inch total profile.
So I’m thinking getting 1 inch layer and a 2 inch layer so I can fine-tune this feel. Like, put one inch on top and the 2 inch under the vzone. But I can’t decide on the firmness to get! Maybe a medium 1 inch Dunlop and 2 inch firm Dunlop?
Or, I get rid of the 3 inch vzone, and I create a mattress of 2 inch firm talalay, and 7 inches firm Dunlop underneath?
Hello and thanks for reaching out on this! What do you mean by sagging in the middle? Is there visible sagging / body impressions, or are you just saying you sink in to the mattress too much?
By sagging I mean hammocking, sinking in too much. I start night fine but feel a bit hammock Ed in my lower back by early morning.
Well based on the information you’ve provided, my advice is to go back to the setup where you said you tried “Med/med/firm still sagging in middle” but move the firm layer to the middle, so medium on top, firm in the middle, medium on the bottom. Is this something you can still try out?
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I don’t think I tried that. But for 4 months I’ve been using the talalay vzone on top, then firm, then medium on bottom, and it was good for a few months before the low back pain returned. I didn’t think the bottom medium layer contributed much until I switched it out for firm and saw a big difference with much more support but was too firm.
I’m going to purchase a 2 inch firm topper from sleepez. I hope this will function as a transition layer from the higher ild firm layer underneath it but still provide support. On top I’ll put the vzone layer and a medium one inch Dunlop on top and hope that smoothes out the firm differences in the vzone components. Wish me luck.
OK great! That’s what I was going to recommend next, as I don’t think a 1" medium and 2" firm is a good choice, that inch of medium would make a really nominal difference and add extra variables that won’t really make it easier to get the mattress dialed in.
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How would you modify, if you would modify the recommendation for a 200# person (the Medium 30-32 Talalay over Medium 30-32 Dunlop over Firm 38-40) for a 250# person? How would you build it for a 12" mattress?
For someone weighing 250 lbs, I recommend sticking with the Medium Talalay (30-32) comfort layer. However, instead of a Medium Dunlop transition layer, opt for a Firm (38-40) layer over another Firm (38-40) layer, resulting in an M/F/F configuration.
If you’re adding a fourth layer for extra height, simply include an Extra Firm layer at the bottom for added support.
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Thank you very much. You’ve been immeasurably helpful.
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