GhostBed Classic vs. GhostBed Venus Williams Hybrid

Hello! I’m a 6ft 30yo male weighing 185 pounds who sometimes sleep hot. I’m a back sleeper 70% of the time, the rest I spend on my sides. I exercise pretty regularly and have no back pain / joint issues. I don’t snore. My preference for softness is plush - medium plush.

I’ve been looking at a ghostbed mattress and the only one they have that is latex (which seems to be this site’s favorite) is the GhostBed Classic ($850), which is medium-firm. The sales rep recommended the Venus Williams Legend Hybrid instead ($1500) based on my preferences, which is a hybrid with no latex component inside. What is the consensus on these beds on this forum? Any advice on how to choose? Thank you very much in advance!

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Hi Tommyg,

Welcome to the Mattress UnderGround,

When I attended the Las Vegas Market in July, I tested several of the GhostBed options. Although they don’t highlight their latex mattress as much as their other models, I found the latex mattress to be exceptionally comfortable.

The GhostBed Classic is medium-firm, which is likely going to be firmer than what you’re looking for, since you prefer a “medium plush” feel.

Medium-firm beds typically offer more support, which can be great for back sleepers, but they might not provide the plushness you’re after when you’re side-sleeping. The GhostBed Classic does feature a layer of latex, which is great for durability, breathability, and responsiveness. However, latex beds tend to feel firmer due to the more buoyant foam as compared to memory foam or hybrid mattresses. It’s good for keeping cool since latex doesn’t retain heat as much, which might help with your “sleeping hot” concern. At $850, it’s a more affordable option compared to the Venus Williams Legend Hybrid, which might be worth considering depending on how much you’re willing to invest.

The Venus Williams Legend Hybrid combines coils with foam layers, offering a balance of support and comfort. Hybrid mattresses can provide a more traditional “cushioning” feel with the added support of pocketed coils, which might be more in line with your preference for a plush yet supportive mattress.

This mattress doesn’t contain latex, which means it might be a little softer overall and could provide a more “hugging” feel from the foam layers. If you tend to feel like you sleep too hot, the hybrid design could still give you decent breathability, but it depends on the foam material used. It’s more expensive at $1500, but it could be worth it if you’re looking for a more plush, softer feel that works for both back and side sleeping, especially considering you don’t have joint issues and don’t snore.

The Venus Williams Legend Hybrid is listed as a medium-firm mattress, while you prefer a medium-plush feel. The GhostBed 3D seems to be the medium-plush option you’re looking for. However, since you’re a back sleeper about 70% of the time, I would caution against choosing a mattress that’s too soft. One approach could be to start with a firmer mattress, such as the medium option like the Williams Hybrid or a medium-firm choice like the Williams Foam or GhostBed Classic. If you find it too firm, you can always add a Talalay topper for extra plushness. Additionally, the GhostBed Natural, which is labeled as medium firmness, has worked well for me when I tested it, even at 6’ 220 lbs. It’s comfortable, especially for someone who typically avoids latex mattresses. I must admit, after trying a few more recently, I’ve grown more impressed with them.

Ultimately, you will need to choose one that meets up with your prospective preferences, and test it in your home, within your home environment for a good month or two, to be certain, the mattress is right for you.

Hope this helps,

Maverick

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It does help very much! Thank you, Maverick!

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Sorry for the double reply here, but just wanted to say thanks again for your insight while also addressing all my preferences. It truly is appreciated. If I can ask, what makes you stay away from latex mattresses? Assuming it’s due to the reasons you already mentioned (i.e., firmer, doesn’t sink as much), but wanted to be sure! Additionally, from the other Ghost Bed options you tested, anything else stood out beyond what you mentioned? Curious especially since our build is similar :slight_smile:.

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I think Savvy Rest latex has a 230 pound max on theilr mattresses

Growing up, I had an old-fashioned, two-sided mattress from the 1960s, made with horsehair, an innerspring system, an insulator pad, cotton batting, and a tufted damask cover. When I got married, I had an ultra-firm Serta Perfect Sleeper from 1986 to 2011—so I wasn’t really exposed to latex mattresses the way I am today. Most mattress stores in New Jersey carried the usual legacy brands, so all-latex options weren’t even on my radar, and I was skeptical that hybrids could be made firm enough to meet my preferences.

After 2011, for another 11 years, I went with another legacy Sealy Posturepedic, but by then, the signs of declining quality and longevity started to reveal themselves.

After trying a bunch of latex mattresses at the trade show, I got a much better sense of what’s really out there and the noticeable differences in quality. I also realized that if you need or want a very firm mattress, it’s absolutely possible—something I wasn’t sure about before.

With the way legacy brands have shifted—mergers, acquisitions, and a focus on profit over product—traditional mattress shopping isn’t what it used to be. But the rise of high-quality latex, along with it becoming more accessible and affordable, gave me the chance to try some excellent latex and latex hybrid mattresses. While I had my doubts about whether hybrids could truly be firm enough, I was pleasantly surprised to find that some options really could meet my standards. I still prefer hybrids with springs, but it’s nice to have real options.

When I visited European Sleep Works, I was blown away by the comfort and quality of their mattresses. They had firmness levels that suited me, top-quality foundations, and overall construction that met my standards. I could have easily ordered a full mattress system, but instead, I left with a latex pillow I’m actually comfortable with and a wedge latex topper that I’m now loving.

So it was not really about me staying away from latex as much as finding those I could be as comfortable with as my more traditional designs.

I recently had the opportunity to try a Hastens Mattress. Not only a traditional old school feel to me, but a type of comfort that was completely different from everything that is out there. Even my beloved Shifman mattreses.

I guess it was just a matter of finding the right combination to meet all my needs. And believing i could get comfortable.

Maverick

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I see, thank you for the explanation. I am so glad to hear that you’re able to find mattresses that fit your preferences and standards. Sounds like quality mattresses are becoming more common and affordable, and that’s wonderful.

By the way, I have to say, it’s charming how eloquently you talk about mattresses with such detail. I feel like I could listen to you discuss them for hours if we ever met, haha. Hope you have an amazing rest of your Sunday, Maverick!

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