New Mattress after 10years

Hi, I was here researching mattresses 10 years ago and had landed with the BrooklynBedding’s 12” Bamboo Bliss with Medium firmness (Level6). We did feel it was a bit on the plusher side for what we would liked but the first week was some of the best sleep we had had to decided to keep it. Fast forward 10 years. It’s totally sagging and become very soft… it home even more when we recently went on a vacation and the Marriott beds felt rock hard, but had much lower back aches. Returned home to realize how soft and broken our mattress had become that it does not support us any more. Wanting to pick the brains of the experts here on what might be the best replacement. BB does not seem to make all latex mattress either now, though the BB Plan Luxe is looking interesting. But worried about it being hybrid and only 1” on comfort layer on top. All suggestions are welcome.

Me: 5’7” 240 lbs Side Sleeper
Wife: 5.2 170lbs stomach sleeper

Thanks
Crazymat27

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Hey crazymat27.

Welcome (back) to our Mattress Forum :smiley:

Glad to hear you found a bed 10 years ago, but sorry it has reached the end of its life. I agree that 1" of comfort layer is quite minimal, even for the flattest sleeping profiles.

If it’s all-latex you’re looking for, you may like the Sleep EZ all natural latex. What I personally like is that you can do a split mattress and adjust the different sides to the individual sleeper’s needs. Pretty nice.

Arizona Premium also has all-latex options and the Nest Bedding Finch is also worth a gander, although you may appreciate a thicker mattress and this one only sits at about 10.5".

Let me know what questions come up!

NikkiTMU

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Can someone suggest what might be a good replacement if I DIY. Thinking I would want a hard surface, but not much idea configuring the layers.

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@Maverick possibke to help here?

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Hey there, crazymat27.

Let’s take a look.

First, you and your wife have different sleeping preferences—she’s a stomach sleeper, and you’re a side sleeper. My approach is to prioritize her needs first. There are a couple of ways to do this, but most stomach sleepers prefer a firmer surface, so let’s start there.

When it comes to stomach sleepers, they need sufficient firmness and support. Without it, they end up straining their back throughout the night. You mentioned your BB Bamboo Bliss mattress, which I’m not too familiar with, but that’s not a big deal for now. After 10 years, it’s natural that both of you may have gained a few pounds and your preferences might have changed. Additionally, it’s possible you’ve slept on something more comfortable at some point, which could have influenced what you’re looking for now.

I also want to address the common “vacation mattress” scenario. You know, the one where you sleep on a mattress while on a trip to the Bahamas or Dubai, and it feels like a dream for a week. It may be tempting to think it was a game-changer, but honestly, it probably only stood out because it was firmer or softer than what you have at home. I don’t give much weight to those experiences. My wife and I don’t travel extensively—just three or four long weekends a year—and we’ve never slept on a mattress better than the one we have at home, even at 4.5- to 5-star hotels. In fact, we look forward to getting back to our own bed to ease our back pain. We’re in our early 60s now, and that wasn’t an issue 10 to 15 years ago. Age definitely plays a role here.

I’m not surprised your mattress is ready for retirement after 10 years. That’s totally normal. If it were a Shifman, ViSpring, Custom Comfort, RoyalPedic, or a high-quality latex mattress, your would expect it may have lasted longer, but it would have cost more upfront. While a higher-end mattress might provide better longevity, it does not always guarantee better comfort or fit. Plus as we get older our needs and comfort can change, so there is always that possible scenario.

Given your size and weight, both of your body’s needs a mattress that provides strong robust support. A firm latex mattress or one with thicker gauge springs (13–14 gauge) would be ideal. There’s always debate about the specifics of springs—how many, how they’re arranged, number of turns and so on—but when a manufacturer uses 13.5 gauge springs, it’s typically an indication of a reasonably firm support system.

For reference, I’m 6’0” and 220 lbs (down from 250+ two years ago), and my wife is 5’4” and around 135 lbs. We sleep on the BB Plank Luxe, which is one of the firmest mainstream mattresses available. Despite it being “off-label” use for us as side sleepers, we prefer a firmer mattress, and love how firm it is. It’s exactly what some review sites claim is a bad fit for side sleepers and even BB might not recommend, but we make it work just fine.

There are a lot of great options in the $1,200–$3,000 range nowadays. For context, I was considering a $10,000–$14,000 Shifman before I took a chance on the BiB Plank Luxe. Every review I read about its firmness and dual sided profile, drew my curiosity closer and closer, until I just dove in.

As @NikkiTMU mentioned, companies like @Sleep_EZ or other latex specialists offer great mattresses that strike a balance between support and pressure relief for side sleepers. Additionally, these folks can customize and prioritize each of your preferences.

The @BackScience series 1 or 2 could also be good choices. The Series 2 would be the better option for you, and its lumbar support insert would be particularly beneficial for your wife as a stomach sleeper.

Two versatile manufacturers from TMU—@DLX and @EngineeredSleep—offer split internal options. Their base mattresses are supportive, and when paired with a split comfort layer, it could be a winning combination. Both brands provide three different foam comfort layer options: latex, HD polyfoam, and memory foam. I would recommend sticking with latex or HD polyfoam for the best results.

As you explore options online, BB, now part of the 3z Brands family, offers a variety of choices across its sister lines. The Birch line, an all-latex hybrid, is a bit more luxurious than their more affordable EcoSleep line. They also make one call the Heritage, this one is only available at certain authorized retailers. If interested in that one, let me know, I can connect you with someone who sells them.

The firmest in their lineup is the Plank Luxe (I’m not a fan of the all-foam Plank, though it may feel firmer initially, it tends to lose its firmness and lacks good edge support). The Plank Luxe is a two-sided mattress, with a 2" comfort layer (1.8lb HD foam, 36 ILD) and a quilted cover incorporating an additional 0.75" of 50 ILD foam, giving a total of 2.75" of comfort above the spring support on the firmer side. I rotate mine every 3 months, and after two years, it’s still, firm and flat.

I’ve experimented with various toppers, from a 2.5" malouf latex alternative to a 3" organic wool-filled topper. I believe a topper extends the life of a mattress, whether you’re using it to maintain the mattress’s initial firmness or to add more pressure relief and contouring.

Another mattress from BB to consider is the Titan Plus Elite. I tried it at the Vegas trade show in August and ended up ordering one for my guestroom. It shares the same spring support system as the Plank Luxe (8" vs. 6" on the Plank, but both use 13.5 gauge springs), but its comfort layer feels like a luxury premium mattress. It offers excellent support with a nice balance of cushioning and is very nice to sleep on.

I hope this gives you some good options to consider. Let me know if you have any questions!

All the best,

Maverick

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Thanks @Maverick . Read your reply and did some research on each of them. Leaning towards either BB plank firm luxe or doing a DIY either with @Arizona_Premium or @Sleep_EZ. Still not fully decided hybrid or go all latex like my current mattress.

Is there any option at all for a Hybrid with 13-14 gauge spring with latex instead of foam. BB looks to be correct gauge but foam. I sleep hot and would ideally stick with tallaly

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We do offer a 6" 13.75 gauge Caliber Edge individually wrapped coil system along with your choice of Talalay as we are a Talalay latex specialist - 6" Caliber Edge Coil, DIY Latex Mattress Components Let me know if you need help choosing firmness for the latex.

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@Arizona_Premium thansk for your reply. How do you suggest I customize this?

6inch coils+ 3inch Dunlop + 2 inch talaly?

Or just 6inhc coils + 3 inch Talaly?

Open to hearing options?

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How much do you weigh and favorite sleeping position?

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Me: 5’7” 240 lbs Side Sleeper
Wife: 5.2 170lbs stomach sleeper/side sleeper

I am open to any suggestions you might have.

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Also is the caliber edge using 13.75 gauge through the entire unit or only the edges. If it’s using different gauges could you specific what they are.
Again open to all suggestions you have.

Thanks

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The coils are all the same gauge however the edge coils have an extra turn in them which makes them taller but compressed down to the same height as the rest. This creates a firmer edge.
Because of your weight you will need a transition layer which should be a dunlop medium and then I would do Talalay medium on top of that. You can also request the Talalay topper to be half medium and half soft since your wife is lighter than you.

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How do i get a quote from you for the config you have recommended?

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The items can be found here - 6" Caliber Edge Coil, DIY Latex Mattress Components - coil

Latex - Talalay & Dunlop Latex Toppers - Bare, Latex Mattress Toppers and Cores, All Products,
Cover - Replacement Mattress Covers or just call me at 888-773-7326

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