Newbie Side Sleeper looking for Mattress advice

Asking for some mattress advice before Cyber Monday ends. Growing up in an Asian household so all our mattresses are extra firm (people in Vietnam sleep on slabs of wood). We operate with the understanding that they will soften over years from extra firm and will still be good to sleep on. Therefore, I don’t know what kind of mattress I need. I’m searching for two situations:

Bed 1: King (myself and husband)
Weight: 150 and 120 lbs
Sleeping posture: Side sleeper
Budget: $50-500
Body pains: Hip pain, lower back, neck/shoulders
Note: No issues with sleep. We are currently using a mattress topper as a bed (have done this for 6 years). How should I combine these (topper+mattress)?
Preference: I don’t like feeling wrapped in the bed -sinking in makes me feel claustrophobic, so there has to be some sort of firmness to it.
I plan to put it on top of the metal bed frame (“no boxspring required”). Any concerns with this?

Bed 2: Queen mattress for guest room
Weighing up to 250 lbs per person
Budget: $50-200
Note: looking for all purpose bed, but durable for heavy people.

Thanks a lot!

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Hi wintttt4257,

Welcome to the Mattress UnderGround!

I understand that finding a good mattress on a budget can be tricky, but it’s definitely possible. Here are a few recommendations that might suit your needs:

For Bed 1 (King mattress): Given that you and your husband are side sleepers with body pain (hip, lower back, neck/shoulders), you’ll likely need a medium-firm mattress that offers support without sinking too much. A mattress that provides good pressure relief for side sleepers while maintaining support will work well.

  1. @EngineeredSleep’s Today Mattress – A solid option that offers excellent support and comfort. It’s well within your budget and should work well with a topper if needed. Here’s the link for reference.
  2. The Mattress Factory’s Orthopedic Mattress – Another great option for those seeking a balance of support and comfort. It’s firm enough for those who don’t want to sink in but still offers relief for body pains. Check it out here.
  3. @Magic_Sleeper’s Firm Mattress – A good budget-friendly option that will give you the firmness you’re looking for without sacrificing comfort. Here’s a link to explore.

As for combining a topper with the mattress, since you’ve been using one for years, you can still use it for added comfort if needed, but the right mattress should help with support and pain relief without feeling like you’re sinking in.

Putting the mattress on top of a metal bed frame without a box spring should be fine, as long as the metal frame offers enough support. If the frame is slatted, make sure the slats are close enough together (no more than 3 inches apart) to prevent sagging.

For Bed 2 (Queen mattress for guest room): For your guest room, where the mattress will support people weighing up to 250 lbs, you need something durable, especially if you want it to last. Look for a mattress that balances support and comfort while holding up under heavier weights.

The same options I mentioned earlier should work here as well, but you might also want to consider looking for a firmer option if you’re concerned about durability for heavier guests.

The key difference with these options is that they are made by companies that prioritize long-lasting quality and craftsmanship, not just marketing hype. The manufacturers and brands I’ve suggested here are all Trusted Members of the Mattress UnderGround, which means they are knowledgeable experts who are genuinely dedicated to providing high-quality, long-lasting products. They don’t rely on flashy marketing or trends; instead, they focus on creating products that perform well and provide a great sleep experience. These manufacturers are transparent, direct, and honest about what they offer, and they’ll work with you to find the right mattress for your needs, ensuring you get the best value for your money.

Good luck with your mattress search, and feel free to reach out if you have more questions!

All the best,

Maverick

Thanks a lot Maverick! I went ahead and got a Chime on your rec.

What do you think of the bedframes claiming “no box spring needed”? Can we place the mattresses right on?

What are the down sides of side sleepers on firm mattresses (in this case, firm mattress topper)?

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Bedframes that claim “no box spring needed” are typically designed with platforms, slats, or solid surfaces that can adequately support a mattress without the need for an additional box spring.

These frames are often convenient because they eliminate the need to purchase a separate box spring, saving both money and space.

Many platform beds provide extra under-bed storage, which is a benefit over traditional box spring setups. The lack of a box spring also gives the bed a minimalist, low-profile look that appeals to many people.

On the other hand, these platform or slatted bedframes sit quite low to the ground. You can use a box spring to raise up the mattress on this type of bedframe, by the way. Many folks find mattresses that are higher up to be more elegant and be more prestigious looking in contrast with the minimalist look.

There could some downsides. Depending on the type of mattress, the support provided by platform beds may not be sufficient, especially for traditional innerspring mattresses. There are some traditional spring mattresses, that are still being produced today, much like they were pre y2k, where a fully functioning spring box spring is necessary to enable the mattress to perform better, last longer, and simply be more comfortable. Some may also find, as I mentioned before, that the mattress sits lower to the ground without a box spring, making it harder to get in and out of bed. As a result, it’s important to check whether the mattress you’re using is compatible with the frame and can perform well without a box spring.

For side sleepers, using a firm mattress or a firm mattress topper can present several challenges. Firm mattresses tend to create pressure points, particularly around the hips and shoulders, where side sleepers are most vulnerable.

Without adequate cushioning, these areas may feel uncomfortable or even painful, potentially leading to disrupted sleep. Also, a firm surface may not allow the body to contour properly, leading to spinal misalignment. When this happens, side sleepers may experience discomfort in the back or neck, which could worsen over time.

While a firm mattress topper may help mitigate these issues by adding a layer of softness and cushioning, it may not fully address the underlying problem of inadequate support for the spine and pressure points. For side sleepers, a medium-firm mattress might provide a better balance of comfort and support, while choosing a softer mattress topper can help relieve pressure on the shoulders and hips. Ultimately, it’s important to ensure that the mattress and topper combination maintains proper spinal alignment and minimizes discomfort.

This is typically an area you would not be able to discern in a 30 showroom test. Fortunately, if you collaborate with a seasoned mattress professional that understands the different mattress types and designs, they can best direct you as to what will function properly together, what you can try in stages, and if needed add additional components, such as a working box spring, semiflex or slatted foundation.

Toppers are an excellent tool to reduce pressure points, increase comfort and add longevity to your mattress. The choice to use a firm topper is a personal one, but it should not be used to try and “firm up” a too soft mattress. It is destined to fail fairly quickly. I have even recommended a firm topper equal to the mattress firmness, simply to add longevity to an existing firm mattress. Generally, even a firm topper will tend to add some contouring and pressure relief that the firm mattress, with minimal comfort layer/s might offer.

Hope this helps.

Maverick