There's no such thing as too hard, right?

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Folks, I need HELP! Got rid of our old innerspring mattress only to find out that the technology has changed but the labels haven’t. You can still get Firm and Extra Firm mattresses, but everything I find retail has some kind of foam in it. These new mattresses are killing my back. I can’t even sit on these beds without “sinking and kinking” - gradually going down, down, down as the foam compresses, and finding myself in a contorted and uncomfortable position. As I try to sleep on anything with foam I jerk awake around 3am with a pain in my side from being bent for the preceding 4 hours.

I’ve temporarily solved the problem with a pile of blankets - on the floor! Counting the carpet and carpet padding I have a 3" - 4" layer of cushioning, about 20 blanket layers. And it does the trick. I don’t bend, fold, spindle, or mutilate myself overnight. I wake up rested and refreshed - exactly what the doctor ordered. We don’t have a record of sleeplessness from the ancient Romans or Chinese - at least not one that’s advertised. So I figure humans evolved to sleep on much harder surfaces than what modern companies are selling. How do I get back to that?

I can’t keep doing blankets-on-the-floor forever. It’s a real pain to bend down and lay everything smoothly and evenly every night, and pick them up and fold them every morning.

I just want a firm mattress without foam. Don’t care about organic, don’t care about ventilation or breathabilty or coolness - I can’t even appreciate what those characteristics are. I just want FIRM. I am pretty sure that means no foam, which probably puts me into the organic market. The trouble is I’m not interested in the “green” features of the mattress but that seems to be what all the literature and web sites are focusing on.

I don’t want to go to the extreme of getting a Japanese tatami or Indian gudari. Yes, there is such a thing as too hard. I’m exploring a futon cushion to put on the box springs, or on the floor. But I’d like a regular king size mattress, on the bed, where my creaky knees can safely get me in at night and out in the morning.

Tell me - where do I look to find the right sleep technology? You know - the old stuff that’s been working well for centuries?

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Hi @AJH - we can help you with this 100%. Our Classic Hybrid 12" Ultra Firm can be made without or with very little foam to do the trick for you.

Standardly we use a 1" of 50ILD Foam and .75" of Foam quilted into the cover, but both can be removed if you genuinely want ZERO foam and a super firm mattress.

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Hello AJH and welcome to the forums and thanks for reaching out on this! You might want to consider the 7" natural latex mattress from Sleep EZ, which can be as soft or as firm as you’d like, and you can even change the firmness of the mattress after you get it in your home and sleep on it - https://sleepez.com/product/natural-latex-mattress/

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Hi AJH,
Welcome to the Mattress UnderGround.

Sorry to hear about your difficulty in find a super firm mattress. Rest assured, if you describe what you want, one of the TMs here will be able to create one that will work. As you have seen a few of the TMs have already geared up with solutions.

All the best in finding your perfect fit.

Maverick

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We can offer our Classic Orthopedic Tufted Innerspring Mattress – Flippable mattress. It is made with a Marshal type spring system with cotton & wool padding. No foam. We offer it in a medium firm or extra firm. To keep that firm feel we recommend pairing it with our heavy duty foundation and a Knickerbocker bed frame. I will provide links to what I am talking about. Classic Orthopedic Tufted Two-Sided Innerspring USA Made Heavy-Duty Mattress Foundation - Box Springs - Amish Built - USA Knickerbocker emBrace ™ 360° Hybrid Bed Frame The Beloit Mattress Co..

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